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PostPosted: 2012-12-21, 17:34    Post subject: help Reply with quote

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I bought recently to Ronnie Seldin a Shakuhachi old kinko, which I find Wonderful. Very Happy

But there is a little space between both parts of the Shakuhachi.

What I can put on the joint to stabilize it and not accentuate this problem ?

Thanks for your help. Wink
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PostPosted: 2012-12-21, 19:07    Post subject: help Reply with quote

Sometimes this came from transportation. I just press the parts together again by hand. Can you post a picture? If you can't close the space by pressing the parts together (by hand only!) you have to separate the parts and look for the reason. If it doesn't affect the playability it might be better to let it as is.

But very first step is to contact Ronnie and ask him about it.
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PostPosted: 2012-12-21, 20:03    Post subject: help Reply with quote

What I meant is that the two parts are moving a bit when I hold the Shakuhachi, although it seems properly assembled.

I followed your advice, and I pushed to the maximum the upper part from the lower part of the Shakuhachi, and it is better! Thank you. Very Happy

Can we put something (a cream or other product) so the two parts hold better together, if this is necessary. Is it already happened to you?

I take advantage of it to present him to you:
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PostPosted: 2012-12-22, 01:43    Post subject: help Reply with quote

At the risk of sounding patronising, have you put it together properly?

What I do, and was told to do by my first teacher in Japan, was to put the two sections together, put the bottom of the flute against my chest and push it into myself, till the flute *clicks* shut.

If that doesn't help then perhaps the joint is a bit loose...
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PostPosted: 2012-12-22, 07:32    Post subject: help Reply with quote

Jam wrote:
What I do, and was told to do by my first teacher in Japan, was to put the two sections together, put the bottom of the flute against my chest and push it into myself, till the flute *clicks* shut.

Ah! Yeah, last week I happened to take a close look at the joint of my flute, and I noticed that there was this little gap like what Plume Blanche described. I did almost the same thing (my stomach rather than chest... getting flabby) just to see if I could close it fully, and there was this satisfying *click* too Smile
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PostPosted: 2012-12-22, 09:09    Post subject: help Reply with quote

Plume Blanche wrote:
What I meant is that the two parts are moving a bit when I hold the Shakuhachi, although it seems properly assembled.

I followed your advice, and I pushed to the maximum the upper part from the lower part of the Shakuhachi, and it is better! Thank you. Very Happy

Can we put something (a cream or other product) so the two parts hold better together, if this is necessary. Is it already happened to you?

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If the joint is moving while holding/playing the flute a wrapp of plumber tape (Teflon) might help. I did it at a loose joint and it worked quite well for nearly a year now. One round of the thin tape may do. Put the flute appart and wrap one round of plumbertabe around the nakatsuke and put it back together. Hope that helps. Everything
else (adding coating / laquer) must be done by an expert. Perry Young is your man here.
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PostPosted: 2012-12-22, 14:22    Post subject: help Reply with quote

Yes, I pushed him against my belly, and that fits much better. But not of " clicks ". Maybe because it is an old boy (Ronnie Seldin said to me that he was almost hundred years old).

I am very happy and honored to have this Shakuhachi with me, even if my play does not deserve him. The fate put him on my road, also I think that he does not hold it against me! Very Happy

He has a very soft and deep sound which I like particularly. And I think that we have a long path to be together made.

I thank you for your answers which helped well me.
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PostPosted: 2012-12-23, 09:57    Post subject: help Reply with quote

I had some advise given in Japan that worked for me, so at the risk of passing on bad advise (expert makers in the forum can chip in with outraged remarks if necessary Smile )
I was told that nail polish is almost like lacquer and can do the job if the joints are a bit loose. I went to the drug store and bought something that was is fact named "nail lacquer", applied a thin layer, and let it dry for a day. So far so good, the joint fits beautifully and no harm done... even aesthetically one wouldn't know the difference...
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PostPosted: 2012-12-23, 13:50    Post subject: help Reply with quote

oh, thanks, it's a good idea. Okay
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PostPosted: 2012-12-23, 16:30    Post subject: help Reply with quote

be careful with the teflon! from my experince it might get your joint stuck togther,
first i would contact Ronnie about it, but again sometimes the joint is a tiny bit lose and its ok, and sometimes its more and then it needs either re-lacquering, or rebinding under the joint rings.


i find out that in many old flutes the joint was actually lose because of a crack at the joint and not the wear of the lacquer. after the rebinding sometimes the joint becomes even too tight and needs a bit of sanding and lubricating.
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